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haha. I love this.
That is awesome. I’ve taken the liberty of linking to Empire’s Shark Attack 3 fan page. They live for this film and similar ilk.
http://www.empireonline.com/forum/tm.asp?m=1139&mpage=187&key=&NID=0#2624787
I’m slightly skeptical about the 709.2 km figure. Have you and professor Nals taken into account gravity, friction and other possible environmental factors (wind, precipitation, the rotation of the earth), or are we assuming Mega Shark lives in some kind of fanciful vacuum world?
Clearly the shark had jumped the movie at that point. Perhaps the shark would have more lead time if it used crazy long range electric field sensing and known flight path. Also a hyper improbability drive may have been involved but where are the petunias?
http://www.hizook.com/blog/2010/01/14/bode-plots-fish-awesome-electric-field-sensing-fish
You may want to consider how fast a shark’s tail would have to be moving considering how inefficient the tail is for forward thrust.
FYI, there’s a typo on the PDF, ‘irst’ instead of ‘first’.
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@ philbonnell: Unfortunately those factors weren’t taken into account. I’m guessing there would be the need for some drag calculations and wind resistance. Which really, makes Mega Shark all the more badass for overcoming such obstacles!
@Timon: Thanks for the link out
@Aron Rubin: Those are some badass fish. God help us should they ever become ‘Mega’
@pokstad: Thanks for the catch! I’ve updated the PDF.
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cool infographic!
only problem: the increase of weight is not linear. you have a volumetric problem here.
twice the size means 2^3 times the volume.
and if mass/volume relation is the same than weight increases by 2^3.
this means a megashark’s weight is 824t.
ps: if you do the same calculation for the megalodon you would get a weight of 220t. that means that mass/volume relation of megalodon is not the same as for the great shark (actually only half).
taking this into accout for megasharks would still mean a weight of 412t.
There’s still one more thing not accounted for: when megashark first spies the plane, he must be aware of the refraction coefficient: while he sees the plane in a diagonal straight line, the plane is much more away, since the diagonal line over the water is much more close to ground that it appears to him.
But that’s a small hurdle for a shark that can calculate parabolic trajectories in realtime, anyway…
Your Shark Size is incorrect!
Jumbo Jet is 70m long – the shark appears to be TWICE the size of the aircraft at biting point.
Which roughly makes the shark about 140m long.
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Impressive! A great infographic for an immortal film. Thanks Stephen, thanks Debbie and eternal glory to Asylum Prods.
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Just one thing: you’re insulting the MegaShark by saying it weighs a vulgar amount of 240 tons. Relative to the size of a great white, and provided that density and overall structure of the different sharks remain similar, then the megashark is nothing close to 240t, no no no… don’t dare to say so. It weighs around 2074 tons!!!
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In the clip the airplane is clearly at cruising altitude and above the clouds, putting it at an above sea level elevation of more like 10,000 meters. Around 33,000 to 35,000 feet is the typical cruising altitude of such a large plane. So mega-shark would need to travel at a LOT faster than 700km/h to reach theplane.
My theory is (not having seen the movie) is that once out of the water he flaps his fins like a hummingbird, generating lift with his fins and tail.
Excellent infographic, however, I’m concerned that it doesn’t take into consideration the issues of free falling mass and water displacement upon landing.
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I just hope I never fly with Condor Airlines….
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All your calculations are wrog. Since the man sees the shark coming from the side, it’s pretty obvious the shark jumps in some sort of parabolic trajectory… X->
This is amazing, I love it to bits.
I would like to know if you’ve considered a infographic on the whole colour-mixing = chemistry segment of the movie?
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Wow, thanks for the feedback everyone. It looks like next time I might need to outsource the calculations portion to those with more physics know-how
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You forgot to carry the ’1′, but otherwise the math is solid.
Honestly, I think you spent more time on this chart then we did making the movie. But this was the best site yet on our little film. AWESOME!!!
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I will print this and use it as a poster!
How about an inforgraphic on whether a man could survive riding a jet ski down a Megaladon’s throat?
See Shark Attack 3: Megaladon
I forsee an entire series of C-grade monster movie infographics.
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Well, I don’t think those 700Km/h would be an issue: if I recall correctly at some point in the movie they say the Shark is approaching at supersonic speeds or something.
(But I was fastforwarding through it at that time, so I might be recalling it wrong…
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A couple of additional issues.
JGV wrote that the refraction cause the plane to appear closer than actually it is, but it is more difficult. Above a specific angle given by snell law (near 45 degrees between water and air), water surface performs like a mirror and Megashark cannot see the plane. So it had to be about several km deep to see the plane. This is tough, even for Megashark.
The other issue is that in the movie megashark seems to bite the aircraft from below it. But at that moment, the speed of the plane is 800 km/h and the shark is stopping its vertical movement, so it should be the plane quickly entering the shark mouth and not the shark reaching it.
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As a big fan of this film, I’m sorry to break some bad news to you, which throws off your whole infographic. The plane wasn’t at Cloud level. This bit takes place in San Francisco, and as a current resident, I think you mistook our abnormally poor summer weather for clouds. :/
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We’re actually having a discussion about this on my Niven group, and how the shark needs to launch itself at an angle in the direction of flight of the airliner to match velocities, but facing toward the airliner, meaning he either flips in mid jump or is coming backwards out of the water like Flipper, and this increases his take off speed to transonic when he breeches the surface – kaBOOM!
We’ve been having fun with this in several venues all day. Thanks!
I’m posting about this on my site. Amazing.
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Ok I actually did some calculations on this back when I first saw this incredible movie. I have revisited my calculations and come to some surprising conclusions.
As has been mentioned the true altitude of the aircraft would be about 10000 m, this is the value I used. The mass of the shark has been -woefully- underestimated however. I would agree with the assessment that the shark is about 140 m long. The largest great white ever caught was 6.4 m and about 3300 kg. increasing mass as the cube this gives us a weight of over 34000 kg. This makes sense since the shark is clearly the size of a large ocean going vessel, the likes of which routinely reach this discplacement.
When velocity is calculated in a vacuum however the mass of the shark is of course inconsequential. Using simple acceleration due to gravity the shark would have to be traveling at about 443 m/s, almost 1600 km/h, to reach this height.
Now the real surprise came when I went to try a rudimentary calculation of atmospheric friction. I used the standard drag formula, assuming the cross-sectional diameter of the shark moving head on to be about 30 m, and the area roughly circular. The coefficient of drag for sharks is actually very low, as discovered by my friend. I gave him a Cd of 0.1, allowing that his mouth is open. At sea-level, just as he leaves the water, the force due to air friction would be about 8.4 million Newtons. However, due to the incredible mass of the shark, this translates into only 0.244 m/s of vertical deceleration.
Now, although a true recalculation of required velocity would require more calculus then I care to bother with since the air friction will be constantly changing as altitude increases and velocity decreases, a quick estimate tells us that very little has changed. Even if that level of friction was constant, the deceleration would only increase from 9.81 m/s/s to 10.054 m/s/s, resulting in a final required velocity of about 449 m/s
This seems very counter-intuitive for me, and I still suspect I have gone wrong somewhere, but I cannot see where. I was expecting the air resistance to be totally insurmountable. But even a large increase in the drag coefficient would only bring the required velocity to… oh maybe over 500 m/s. If anyone has any thoughts or can point out obvious errors they would be welcome.
Of course, even getting to this speed underwater in the first place is a whole other ball of wax.
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Do you think the collateral damage of whales, subs and squid might hinder the acceleration somewhat? Have you taken into account the varying sea-life densities of different sections of ocean?
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Terminal velocity for a 34000 kg shark with a cross-section of about 320 sq m and drag coefficient of .2 (<– falling sidelong) is only, hmmmm… 83 m/s? Even diving snoutfirst, with a coefficient of .1 , Mega Shark would only reach maybe 118 m/s before splashdown.
I haven't calculated the impact, but since Mega Shark shrugs off salt water at 500 m/s, I think re-entry would barely tickle. He just got hit in the face with a plane, which is probably more of an issue.
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okay im usually down wit da retarded shit of the internet. but this is just to much. cant believe its an actual movie
You know, I always thought there were some plot holes in Mega Shark Versus Giant Octopus. Though, clearly, the physics behind a giant shark
Amazing how many people posted comments in here. Now we have these remote controlled flying shark toys. Next we will get octopus air swimmers. Great for Halloween partying with RC flying sharks chasing diners around the house.
This website is my inhalation , real good layout and perfect subject matter.